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We sit outside and argue all night long About a God we've never seen but never fails to side with me - MrPutter: doing things the hard way, because it is there.
April 29th, 2002
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We sit outside and argue all night long About a God we've never seen but never fails to side with me
Wow. That was an... interesting experience I've just had. I can honestly say I've never been in that situation before.

(Unfortunately) I'm not sure I can come to grips enough to talk about it right now on here, so y'all are gonna have to wait in suspense until I wrap my head around it. If I ever do. Dammit, how the hell am I supposed to react to this...? Uh, say "no" I guess? But maybe I'm just scared? Hell YES, I'm scared! You're not supposed to ask that kind of question so soon, even if you ARE just joking!

Anyway. You don't know what I'm talking about, so I'll stop being cryptic.

There's this interesting web page I tripped across. Battleground God. No, it's not some whacked-out religious site or anything. It's sort-of a questionnaire that you can take, asking about various religious views (of yours), and analyzes them for self-consistency and whatnot. To see how well you've thought out the whole issue. I found it pretty cool. As far as I can tell, there's no bias (on the site) towards either a belief in God, or lack thereof... you can answer from either perspective and it's just as "levelheaded" (for lack of a better term).

I came through with no direct hits, but had to "bite the bullet" twice. Anyway, take it if you wanna, ignore it if you wanna. But I found it interesting.

So, what do you do when you just don't care anymore?

I'm referring to school, actually. Like, I seriously have a hard time caring. About anything. About my assignments, my classes. About waking up on time to make it to class. About handing in my assignments. About studying for exams. About grades. I could -- honestly speaking -- flunk out of every single class I'm taking right now, and I don't think I'd really care. What does it take to get you to feel again? Is this just burn-out? Already?


I'm scaring me. I'd give anything to care again.

Current Mood: pensivepensive
Current Music: Perpetual Dream Theory -- Drive North

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Date:April 28th, 2002 02:59 pm (UTC)
"Earlier you agreed that it is rational to believe that the Loch Ness monster does not exist if there is an absence of strong evidence or argument that it does. No strong evidence or argument was required to show that the monster does not exist - absence of evidence or argument was enough. But now you claim that the atheist needs to be able to provide strong arguments or evidence if their belief in the non-existence of God is to be rational rather than a matter of faith.

The contradiction is that on the first ocassion (Loch Ness monster) you agreed that the absence of evidence or argument is enough to rationally justify belief in the non-existence of the Loch Ness monster, but on this occasion (God), you do not."

Now hang on just a second. The question asked if there was no proof that god did NOT exist, is atheism a thing of faith or rationality? Well, of course it's one of faith. With no proof, it cannot be a rational thing. They're twisting words here, and even though they use simplistic statements in their questions, their arguments on their direct hits follow with much more assumption. I didn't answer the questions with anything BUT attention to the simplicity of the statement.

"The serial rapist Peter Sutcliffe had a firm, inner conviction that God wanted him to rape and murder prostitutes. He was, therefore, justified in believing that he was carrying out God's will in undertaking these actions."

Yes, it was justified in believing that he was carrying out god's will. Was he *justified in doing it*? No. But that's a completely different question. I got a direct hit on this one too.

I also got a third direct hit on another question which was also in conflict with the serial rapist answer. Gee, double damage for the same question?

This test is pretty much a load of crap, because they assume that my answers mean that I reasoned the question one way, when really it was another. This is much too simplistic a test for such grand questions.
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Date:April 28th, 2002 04:35 pm (UTC)
Take the pills, man. You deffinately need 'em.
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